whether it is massachusetts, california, across the country. that money you talked about is a small portion of the money. it represents 4% of the total spending of the municipal budgets across massachusetts. >> i mean, but it is nearly a billion dollars that otherwise wouldn't be there, going to very important local causes. what is actually wrong with that? >> but if you had sales -- that money comes from $4.7 billion worth of sales, lottery sales. if that money was spent on other forms of products and services in our economy, the return, the economic growth from that would be immensely higher, they talk about not making the money from a small amount of players. the new york times, reports that 80% of lottery money comes from lottery players. it is a predatory business, and it is a deception. >> there is one exception i would take to that. here is the facts, is that lotteries in states began to do lotteries because people have a desire. we do $68 million in lottery business in fiscal year 2012, more than the movie and music industry combined. w